Five Questions Evolutionists Would Rather Dodge
By William A. Dembski
Evolutionists are masters at covering the flaws and weaknesses of their theory. Here’s how you can clean house.
Most evolutionists give the impression that evolution is a settled fact of science, on the order of the Earth being round or revolving around the Sun. Evolution, we are assured, has been overwhelmingly confirmed. Only rubes and ignoramuses debate evolution. Any resistance to it is futile and indicates bad faith or worse.
For instance, Oxford biologist Richard Dawkins accuses those who refuse to accept evolution with being “ignorant, stupid or insane (or wicked, but I’d rather not consider that).” To this he recently added: “I don’t withdraw a word of my initial statement. But I do now think it may have been incomplete. There is perhaps a fifth category, which may belong under ‘insane’ but which can be more sympathetically characterized by a word like tormented, bullied, or brainwashed.”
Despite such bluster, evolutionary theory is in sad shape. Cambridge paleontologist Simon Conway Morris, writing for the premier biology journal Cell, recently remarked:
“When discussing organic evolution the only point of agreement seems to be: ‘It happened.’ Thereafter, there is little consensus….” To the public, the evolutionary establishment presents a united front. But this illusion of consensus quickly evaporates once you know where to look and what questions to ask.
What follows are five key questions you can use to lay bare the inflated claims of evolutionists. Evolutionary theory is not a slamdunk. It is an exercise in storytelling that masquerades as a scientific theory.
1. The Fossil Record
According to Darwin, the absence of intermediate fossil forms “is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory.” What new fossil finds, if any, have occurred since Darwin wrote these words nearly 150 years ago? Do they overturn Darwin’s bleak assessment of evolutionary theory? If the absence of intermediate fossil forms holds as much today as it did back then, why should anyone accept evolution?
Dodge: Evolutionists have gotten quite good at sidestepping this question with what looks like an answer but really isn’t. Typically they’ll lay out a bunch of organisms or biological structures and say, “Look at how similar these are. They’ve obviously descended from a common evolutionary ancestor.” Evolutionists will then ply you with a mass of details about supposedly wellconfirmed evolutionary transitions (like those supposedly describing the evolution of horses, whales, or reptiles into mammals).
Comeback: Don’t get lost in the details. Yes, the fossil record contains organisms that can be placed in a progression suggesting gradual change. But most of these progressions result from arbitrary picking and choosing among the totality of fossils. With millions of fossils to choose from, it is likely that some gradual progressions will be found.
Also, such progressions invariably come from organisms with the same basic body plan. In the “evolution” of the horse, we are always dealing with horse-like organisms. And even with the “evolution” of reptiles into mammals, we are dealing with land-dwelling vertebrates sharing many common structures. What we don’t see in the fossil record is animals with fundamentally different body plans evolving from a common ancestor. For instance, there is no fossil evidence whatsoever that insects and vertebrates share a common evolutionary ancestor.
The challenge that here confronts evolution is not isolated but pervasive, and comes up most flagrantly in what’s called the Cambrian Explosion. In a very brief window of time during the geological period known as the Cambrian, virtually all the basic animal types appeared suddenly in the fossil record with no trace of evolutionary ancestors. The Cambrian Explosion so flies in the face of evolution that paleontologist Peter Ward wrote, “If ever there was evidence suggesting Divine Creation, surely the Precambrian and Cambrian transition, known from numerous localities across the face of the earth, is it.” Note that Ward is not a creationist.
Evolutionists sometimes argue that the necessary transitional fossils are there but haven’t been found or that they’ve all been destroyed. But this is wishful thinking. The challenge of the fossil record that Darwin identified 150 years ago has not gone away. To his credit, the late evolutionist Stephen Jay Gould conceded this point: “The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of fossils.” The point you need to press is whether this inference is reasonable at all.
2. Natural Selection
According to evolutionist Richard Dawkins, the “evidence of evolution reveals a universe without design.” Yet he also states, “Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose.” How does Dawkins know that living things only appear to be designed but are not actually designed?
Dodge: Evolutionists pretend that the design of living things is a dead issue. Accordingly, they tell us that before Darwin, scientists mistakenly viewed the living world as the product of design but that afterward they came to their senses and rightly rejected it. For Dawkins and most evolutionists, Darwin’s idea of natural selection, in which nature weeds out the less fit and allows the more fit to survive and reproduce, is supposed to be all that’s needed to explain the appearance of design in biology.
Comeback: The great fallacy of evolution is that it claims all the benefits of design without the need for actual design. In particular, evolution attributes intelligence, the power of choice, to a fundamentally irrational process, namely, natural selection. But nature has no power to choose. Real choices involve deliberation, that is, some consideration of future possibilities and consequences. But natural selection is incapable of looking to the future. Instead, it acts on the spur of the moment, based solely on what the environment right now deems fit. It cannot plan for the future. It is incapable of deferring success or gratification. And yet, so limited a process is supposed to produce marvels of biological complexity and diversity that far exceed the capacities of the best human designers.
There’s no evidence that natural selection is up to the task. Natural selection is fine for explaining certain small-scale changes in organisms, like the beaks of birds adapting to environmental changes. It can take existing structures and hone them. But it can’t explain how you get complex structures in the first place. That’s why cell biologist Franklin Harold writes, “there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only a variety of wishful speculations.” Remember the phrase “wishful speculations” whenever anyone starts touting the wonder-working power of natural selection.
3. Detecting Design
The search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) is a scientific research program that looks for signs of intelligence from distant space. Should biologists likewise be looking for signs of intelligence in biological systems? Why or why not? Could actual intelligent design in biological systems be scientifically detectable?
Dodge: Evolutionists admit that intelligent design is scientifically detectable in many areas of science, such as archeology, forensics, and cryptography. They even admit that nonhuman intelligence could be scientifically detectable, as with SETI. But they reject out of hand the possibility of detecting design in biological systems. Any intelligence responsible for biological complexity would have to be an unevolved intelligence, and for evolutionists there is no such thing as an unevolved intelligence. For them, intelligence is always the product of evolution.
Comeback: The double-standard here is obvious. There are reliable methods for identifying the effects of intelligence. These methods apply in many areas of science already. They even apply to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, in which the intelligence detected would be nonhuman. It is therefore completely arbitrary to say that such methods of design detection apply only to evolved intelligences but not to unevolved intelligences.
Usually evolutionists attempt to get around this double-standard by saying that we have experience of human intelligence but no experience with the sort of intelligence that would be involved in the formation of life. That’s why SETI is such a powerful response to the evolutionists’ double-standard. If an extraterrestrial intelligence communicated with Earth via radio signals, we would have no more experience of the extraterrestrial intelligence than we do of any intelligence responsible for the formation of life. In each case, we would know nothing about the actual workings, motivations, and purposes of the intelligence.
But we would still recognize the intelligence from its effects. Recall the movie Contact, based on a novel by Carl Sagan. In that movie, SETI astronomers discovered a radio signal consisting of a long sequence of prime numbers (these are numbers divisible only by themselves and one). Because the sequence was long, it was complex and thus hard to reproduce by chance. Also, the prime numbers are mathematically significant and thus represent an objective, independently given pattern, or what is called a specification.
There is now an increasing scientific literature that takes the joint occurrence of complexity and specification as a reliable marker for detecting design. My books The Design Inference (Cambridge University Press) and No Free Lunch (Rowman & Littlefield) lay out such methods. These methods are very widely employed in science as well as in ordinary life. There is nothing to prevent their legitimate use in biology.
4. Molecular Machines
Do any structures in the cell resemble highly intricate machines designed by humans? Evolutionists claim that these structures evolved. But if so, how? Could such machines have features that place them beyond the reach of evolution?
Dodge: Evolution is a divide-and-conquer strategy. It tries to explain the complex in terms of the simpler. Thus, when confronted with a molecular machine or any other complex structure in biology, evolutionists merely point out that the structure has components that are simpler and thus could be the target of natural selection. Hard to believe, but from this unremarkable observation, evolutionists blithely conclude that natural selection is able to build all complex biological structures.
Comeback: You really need to hold the evolutionists feet to the fire here. The important thing is not to let them retreat into generalities. There are structures in the cell that don’t just resemble humanly built machines—they actually are machines in every sense of the word. Don’t focus on how such machines might have originated in the abstract. Focus on a specific machine and force the evolutionist to try to explain in detail how it might have evolved.
Take, for instance, the bacterial flagellum, which is now referred to as the “Icon of Intelligent Design” by some evolutionists because it has been so effectively used to criticize evolution. The bacterial flagellum is a marvel of nanoengineering. Biologist Howard Berg at Harvard refers to it as “the most efficient machine in the universe.” The flagellum is a little bi-directional motor-driven propeller that sits on the backs of certain bacteria and drives them through their watery environment. It spins at 20,000 rpm and can change direction in a quarter turn. It requires approximately 40 protein parts for its construction. If any of the parts are missing or not available in the right proportions, no functional flagellum will form. So, how did it evolve?
Despite thousands of research articles that have been written about the structure and function of the flagellum, biologists don’t have a clue how it could have evolved. Evolutionists have only one straw at which they continually grasp when trying to explain how the flagellum might have evolved, namely, that the flagellum contains within it a structure similar to a microsyringe found in some bacteria. Having found this sub-structure, evolutionists merrily conclude that the microsyringe must have evolved into the flagellum.
Such pathetic lapses in logic are everywhere in the evolutionary literature. The challenge for evolutionary theory is not to find components of such systems that could be grist of natural selection’s mill. Rather, it is to provide detailed, testable, step-by-step scenarios whereby such components could reasonably have come together to bring about the marvels of nano-engineering that we find in systems like the flagellum.
What exactly had to happen to that microsyringe to transform it into a flagellum? To see what’s at stake, consider what exactly has to happen to a motor to transform it into a motorcycle. Sure, there are a number of steps that can transform a motor into a motorcycle. And there probably are a number of steps that can transform a microsyringe into a flagellum. But what are those steps? How gradual is the progression? And is it reasonable to think that those steps could be taken apart from design? Not having a clue about how these systems did or might have evolved, evolutionists never answer such questions.
5. Testability
What evidence would convince you that evolution is false? If no such evidence exists, or indeed could exist, how can evolution be a testable scientific theory?
Dodge: In the theory of evolution, organisms gradually transform as the result of purely material factors such as natural selection and random genetic changes. What would it take, therefore, to refute such a theory? Darwin sidestepped the question as follows: “If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down. But I can find out no such case.” Although Darwin here seems to be opening evolution up to criticism, in fact he is doing the opposite. Indeed, he is protecting evolution from all effective challenges and rendering it untestable.
Comeback: To see this, consider the following reply to Darwin by University of Texas philosopher Robert Koons: “How could it be proved that something could not possibly have been formed by a process specified no more fully than as a process of ‘numerous, successive, slight modifications’? And why should the critic [of evolution] have to prove any such thing? The burden is on Darwin and his defenders to demonstrate that at least some complex organs we find in nature really can possibly be formed in this way, that is, by some specific, fully articulated series of slight modifications.”
It’s important here to see the big picture. The evolutionist J. B. S. Haldane, when asked what would convince him that evolution was false, replied that finding a rabbit fossil in pre-Cambrian rocks would do quite nicely. Such a fossil would, by standard geological dating, be out of sequence by several hundreds of millions of years. Certainly such a finding, if rigorously confirmed, would overturn the current understanding of the history of life. But it would not overturn evolution.
Haldane’s rabbit is easily enough explained as an evolutionary convergence, in which essentially the same structure or life form evolves twice. In place of a common underlying intelligent design, evolutionists invoke evolutionary convergence whenever confronted with similar biological structures that cannot reasonably be traced back to a common evolutionary ancestor.
So long as some unknown or unexplored evolutionary pathway might have led to the formation of some biological structure or organism, evolutionists prefer it over alternative explanations such as intelligent design. And since the unknown and unexplored allow for an infinity of loopholes, the committed evolutionist regards Darwinian and other materialist explanations of life’s origin and subsequent development as always trumping alternative explanations, regardless of the evidence.
Note that intelligent design does not stack the deck in this way. Unlike evolution, intelligent design is refutable. To refute intelligent design, it is enough to display specific, fully articulated Darwinian pathways for the complex systems that, according to intelligent design, lie beyond the reach of the Darwinian mechanism (systems like the bacterial flagellum in question four). Though evolutionists mistakenly charge intelligent design with being untestable, it’s their theory that in fact is untestable.
Why is it important to ask these questions? In his book The Right Questions, prominent evolution-critic Phillip Johnson shows how the pursuit of truth requires the unmasking of falsehoods. What’s more, he points out that falsehoods are unmasked only by knowing where to probe and what questions to ask. Because the truth about biological origins is so important, ultimately defining our place in the universe, truth demands that we ask the right questions about Darwin and evolution.
Richard Halvorson, writing for the Harvard Crimson, has aptly remarked, “We must refuse to bow to our culture’s false idols. Science will not benefit from canonizing Darwin or making evolution an article of secular faith. We must reject intellectual excommunication as a valid form of dealing with criticism: the most important question for any society to ask is the one that is forbidden.”
Evolution has become an ideology, and the one thing that ideologies fear is exposure. That’s why evolution forbids certain lines of questioning. But the questions need to be asked. Too much is riding on evolution for it to escape proper scrutiny. For a more thorough examination of the questions posed here, as well as many others, see my new book The Design Revolution: Answering the Toughest Questions about Intelligent Design
(InterVarsity, 2004).
Has any evidence FOR intelligent design been found?
I am involved in SETI and I am NOT looking for a complex signal. In fact I am looking for a very simple signal.
SETI and ID are simply not comparable.
Your comments reveal a superficial knowledge of evolutionary theory along with a deep misunderstanding of its process. In order to deal with all of this I would need to take you back to your early childhood and re-educate you. I take heart in the knowledge that even if we are faced with hoards of indoctrinated religious idiots in the present the mountains of evidence for a world without supernatural intervention continues to grow for the benefit of future generations.
Thanks for your comments, just a note to say that this document was completed by Dr William A. Dembski not me. Whilst I completely agree with his findings and analysis I can’t claim the glory. By the way SETI was used as an example of search for the design and therefore is not different to ID theory.
Also note the comment by Mr John Sutton calling evolution doubters “Religious idiots” and supposed acquisition of greater biology knowledge and deeper understanding, but without documenting what it is that he has to say. This type of “argument” only confirms Dr Dembski claim that evolution is also a religion and its followers have to make massive leaps of faith in order to explain the unexplainable.
This kind of misrepresentation of science incenses me.
When doing science (note science is a process, not an edifice), you don’t test a theory, you test its PREDICTIONS. No theory is testable – it’s the predictions.
Your “show me all the transitional fossils” is the same as complaining to physicists that they couldn’t actually show you gravity. Evolutionary theory doesn’t predict that there should be a perfect set of fossils, so how is this a refutation?
Evolutionary theory has generated hundreds of thousands of testable predictions. I challenge you to name one prediction from ID, and a suitable test.
Mr. Defend… Saying that evolution is a religion is like saying that baldness is a hair color.
Thanks again for your additional comments. On the Testing of the theory I have to respectfully disagree with you, how do you explain disproved theories, yes when the predictions do not match the actual results we then accept that we had faulty theory if we say that there are transitional links you should be able to point to some kind of transition specimen especially between different species.
I find this to be a common misunderstanding and I blame our education system as it is not teaching us to think for ourselves but to accept without questioning. At this point I would like to draw you attention to the fact that there are many non religious people who have very strong reservations about the theory of evolution.
I hope you are aware that many “transitions ” which are in our museums are in fact just one individual pigs tooth or part of one bone yet somehow “scientists” manage to construct the entire missing link.
I have to agree with your assessment that there are many thousands of fossils out there, however I will have to remind you that this is always open to interpretation in deed there are many evolutionary biologists who will disagree with each other.
Simply saying that something is a “link” does not make it so, there has to be a logical and matching steps between two stages as in fact this is precisely what evolution is claiming, so please lets not neglect this most basic of evolution principles.
Also when you say science is a process I guess you mean by that, if the theory is not proven or our findings don’t match our expectations we can still try it again and again with different variables no mater whether these are applicable to our research until “like by magic” we finally find something that could possibly be used to explain our “untouchable” and holy and out of bounds beloved theory.
I would like here to use the example of vestigial organs, evolutionary biologist would say “here is your prove that we have evolved”, somebody else looking at the same information could draw completely different conclusion by saying actually, change in our environment will lead to the loss of certain functions as conditions in our environment have so drastically changed that this previous functions are not used anymore and therefore may have now been lost.
We can both agree that certain functions and organs have reduced their use and functions but this does not mean we would have to agree that this will somehow lead to the increase in functions somewhere else and that this would then result in a further progress elsewhere.
This in my humble opinion is the observer who is jumping to the conclusion, any analyst would tell you this, you need to continue asking same basic questions like, what or who, why, where, and when.
Many agnostic scientist agree that this issue of mutation would only lead to the loss of function and would not be producing any net gain, and this is one of the main reasons why so many people have doubts when analyzing theory of evolution.
To me evolution is like religion and philosophy of life I could not accept it as a science if you take away testability which some people advocate we should do and remove any questioning and continue to ridicule the opposition by simple saying “most scientist agree with these findings” or “only a fool would not accept evolution” etc. one would very quickly come to conclusion that this is intellectual bullying, patronizing and manipulative maneuvering. Often this is described as school playground tactics.
When drawing parallels between different branches of science we have to be very careful too. Making statements like “you can’t see gravity but you can feel it’s force is not same as saying evolution stipulates that mutation is the positive and beneficial process but we will then ignore the missing links as we would rely on some “unseen evidence”.
Two are completely different, bones we have and can see as physical artifacts and the time that one specie supposedly progressed from one stage of evolution to the next stage should be therefore testable and traceable with the “numerous in between missing links” skeletons which should be found under the next level of sedimentary rocks. This continues to trouble many scientist who so eagerly endeavor to prove that theory of evolution is correct.
Finally let me conclude that that anyone not afraid to explore facts of life should not deny that there is a possibility that eventually there could be a dramatic change within the global scientific community at which point they would simple say after extensive research, analysis and observations we can more less conclude that evolution is unlikely.
Personally I think it will take some time, possibly few hundreds of years but eventually I would say if we continue to exist as a species, humanity would look back and say how wrong we were.
I wish you long and fruitful life, and urge you not to give up the search, to continue to critically examine everything and don’t take anyones word but do your own digging, compare the notes on both sides of the argument and check the “opposition” regardless of who is “right” I urge you to continue to be objective. Remember in the same way people say religious people have been indoctrinated please check if the opposite is not the truth.
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Logic tells us there must be one before than can be many. Darwnists tell us that humans are descendents of nonhuman animals. They want us to believe that a nonhuman female animal gave birth to a human child. Evolutionists ask us to believe that many female animals continued to do this until we had enough humans to sustain reproduction of this new species. Then the animals stopped giving birth to human babies. The animals died and their species disappeared because they were incapable of reproducing their own kind.
This description is mine, but is is the logical conclusion of the presentation of the the theory of evolution.
The universe is not static, everything is in motion. Motion is change and every material thing is constantly changing. Some changes are regressive, some are progressive. You may call progressive change evolution if you like. Evolution is an excellent descriptive verb but it does not logically establish the orgin of species.
The defining quality of biological species is their ability to interbreed within their own members but not with the members of another specie. For one species’ progeny to be be another, or a new specie is not logically consistent. It is Bio-Logic-ally inconsistent. The process of evolution as presented by Charles Darwin not only fails to show initial orgin, it ignores causality,and destroys the concept of species and speciation.
I suggest that Mr. Darwin’s book should have been titled “The Origin of The Specious”.
James E Gambrell
You might want to read the current issue of Scientific American. They have an piece “What is Species?” that should clear up your mis-understandings on the subject.
Regards…. Jim
Jim
Thank you very much, feel free to send any material of relevance to me at defend.theword@ntlworld.com
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Thanks for the long answer!
Firstly, as I said before, it is NOT a prediction nor a requirement of evolutionary theory that there be a complete record of transitional forms in the fossil record. Why is an incomplete fossil record evidence against evolution?
In fact, since you asked, there are actually several examples of perfect LIVING transitional forms between species: look up “ring species”. For example, herring gulls (Larus argentatus) get darker and darker in form as you go west from Europe. By the time you’ve gone round the world and reached Europe again, they are a different form which cannot interbreed with herring gulls. We call them lesser black-backed gulls, and give them a different species name (L. fuscus). What better example of transitional forms could you imagine? The same is true in deer mice and Ensatina salamanders in the USA, Greenish warblers in the Himalaya, and lots of others.
Secondly, I challenged you (or anyone) to name a testable prediction based on the religious view of biological history, and a suitable test. Can you?
Lastly I don’t agree that our education system teaches us to “accept without questioning”. Science done properly is composed entirely of questioning, and the scientific curriculum in schools increasingly so. Kids do science experiments at school, which consists of asking questions. If the curriculum were religious, what experiments could they possibly do?
Rather, it is the religious lobby that accept “the word of God” without question. They NEVER provide realistic alternatives to evolutionary theory, or any kind of support, or even one single test that might provide support for a religious interpretation of biological history. Why should their viewpoint be credible?
Thanks,
J
Just a quick response hope this will clarify what I believe and also to say that misunderstanding mis quotation and presuppositions which are not checked could easily misguide the argument rather than answer the question.
1 Christianity could rightly take a credit for the development of modern since in the west (Western Europe and America) from early 16th Century if you were part of the educated elite often by the end of your education if you selected to study theology you had options open to you i.e. there was enough education to allow you to choose from 3 different professions. I.e. You could decide to be a Church Minister, Lawyer or Doctor.
Often many great scientist of the time were theologically educated this did not stop them from making new scientific discoveries.
2 Most people who agree with intelligent design would agree that there is evidence for a micro evolution in other words there is a mutation within species but this does not lead to net gain for the next generation of birds. In other words the environment that we live in will influence how we develop.
Some 25 years ago when I was interested in martial arts I was told that your fingers, joints and bones would strengthen and thicken after while as you start using your hands and legs more. I can confirm this as correct as eventually I was able to brake thicker bits of wood which I never though possible at first. If you walk barefooted most of your life it’s the fact of life that your feet will be wider as there will be no support for them etc, etc.
3 Don’t let your understanding and experience to limit what something is or is not. Often when talking to others about what I stand for they tend to be surprised as it’s not what they are use to when benchmarking my statements against their understanding of what “Christians” believe.
You are right we need to be challenged in the same way we challenge others, all I would say is I do agree with you that the Bible should remain the foundation of “our faith” but how one interprets it is also very important but I will leave this for the next discussion
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Thank you ..
We all know that we are not monkeys, or wahtever names Darwinists call us.
the choice is whether to be on the side of Angels or Animals: I choose to be on the side of Angels..
If there is no God, then there are no moral values and no moral bounds: that is the difference between men and animals.
It is no accident that science was first championed in Europe by men of theistic faith rather than for purely secular motives. The foundations of the Western renaissance and the modern scientific method were lade during several centuries of tolerant Muslim rule.
While Western Europe languished in the “Dark Ages”, Muslim scientists collected translated and synthesised knowledge from all over the Muslim empire and beyond. In this effort, they enlisted the help of other cultures and faiths (particularly Jews and Christians). It was the first international effort to pursue science in a systematic way under a common language (Arabic). It provided a blue print for what was to follow.
This effort was in part driven by the need for practical knowledge required to run a huge empire and partly by tenants of Islam which require Muslims to seek knowledge wherever they can. The Western scholars and theologians who initiated the renaissance did so after study under Muslim scholars at the great Muslim universities such as Cordoba. 1400 years ago Allah SWT revealed the following prophetic ayat (verse) in the Holy Qur’an:
Soon will we show them
Our Signs in the (furthest)
Regions (of the earth), and
In their own soul, until
It becomes manifest to them
That this is the Truth…” (41:53)
ID is clearly a universal idea which transcends many faiths. To me it is the idea that through careful study of the evidence, all reasonable people will eventually conclude that life and the universe could only be a product of the Divine. Before being driven to this conclusion, we are to expect every possible alternative to be considered by those who would rather not entertain the idea of a purposeful universe with free will and accountability etc. We are now entering a phase in Materialistic science where any unprovable speculation is being positively considered, provided that it is unguided.
Theres been many fruads and hoaxs in evolution including PILTDOWNMAN,NEBRASKAMAN,LUCY,and the dino-bird and hynkles fruadulent embryo still used in text books today
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